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Throwdown: Can LinkedIn Take On Salesforce?

linkedin stock priceAs the dust settles from Microsoft’s acquisition of LinkedIn, the rumors have just begun to swirl. The first wave of reactions were all about the product and people were posting almost daily. Questions like what will they do with their new asset? How will LinkedIn’s current offerings and recent acquisitions change?

All of the recruiters who lean on LinkedIn a little too heavily to do their sourcing are still holding their breath as we’ve seen little to no news that actually points to an answer. They’re leaving us in suspense which is probably a great marketing tactic as people are already buzzing about them.

On this blog, we’ve pointed to the potential and made our ponderings about this acquisition, and there have been countless other posts recapping the facts and future. Or at least what they think. It’s all possible – which is why we’re seeing their stock price sky-rocket. Potential is a big dollar item in the investment world.

While I’m not willing to place my bets on where LinkedIn goes next as far as product, I am thinking about the new competitive landscape for LinkedIn. See, they’re in a new league now away from the Facebook’s and Twitter’s. We’re not just going to look at LinkedIn for their own metrics but how they rank in comparison to Microsoft’s countless other business lines. That means they’re in a new competitive sphere and that has started an entirely other conversation. Who will try to compete now?

LinkedIn Vs Everyone

Screen Shot 2016-07-28 at 1.31.12 PMA while back, I read this article from Vik Singh on TechCrunch with a headline that I couldn’t help but click: “ Two Worlds Colliding: How LinkedIn Could Take On Salesforce.”  My very first reaction to the headline? “Ha.”

Now, I laughed as someone who has gone to Dreamforce conferences and built a Salesforce instance from the ground up. SEeing everything it can do, I’m totally bought into the Salesforce bandwagon. In my humble opinion, they’ve built the smartest business model that exists: here’s my platform, build whatever you want on it. Instead of cornering one category or industry, they cover every category and industry that sells things – even the nonprofits that just sell dreams. It’s a truly collaborative platform.

But my internal Salesforce fan girl still had to take a second to think about the real comparison here because that’s not the question Singh was trying to ask. He’s making us wonder if LinkedIn could be translated to a consumer grade CRM marketers would buy into.

The LinkedIn Advantage

linkedin advantagesHe makes a compelling argument for LinkedIn’s advantage. A system like Salesforce starts as a blank slate. All of the data has to be merged and leads have to be generated. There’s a lot of work to be done before it’s viable. LinkedIn, on the other hand, has the advantage with marketers because they start with a pile of data – about 433 million users worth. Think of every intricacy and detail people share on LinkedIn, then hand that to a marketing team as their database. That’s scary shit. Singh brought up a hypothetical that takes it one step further than the user data you’ve added to the system.

“What if you included some JavaScript from LinkedIn on your company’s website so that whenever a signed-in LinkedIn user visited your site, you could see who they were in LinkedIn Sales Navigator?” Read more here.

Sounds like a marketer’s dream world to me. We’re in a tough spot, ya know. The sales process is disappearing, as consumers are self-educating before they’re not willing to talk to you. They’re getting farther than ever with their research according to a Google and CEB study.

This study determined that consumers are getting 53% through the sales process before talking a sales representative. That means 47% of the sales process just disappeared and now it’s on marketing to drag them in with whitepapers and webinars. It works, sometimes. But if LinkedIn wants to give me a pile of data about people that have visited my website before I’ve ever gotten them to convert, I’d say that sounds dreamy.

That Won’t Fly, LinkedIn

Yes, I love data. I’m a marketer. But that kind of data won’t convince a huge corporation to rip out their HubSpot or Marketo system that’s already completely integrated into Salesforce. I’m sure the consultants are salivating at the idea but I just don’t think you can convince people to buy into that change.

It’s also a potentially enormous legal liability. I’m no lawyer but I do know that as of today, about two-thirds of states have passed or considered their own privacy laws about the Internet and social media. Most of these laws are modeled after CAL OPPA (California Online Privacy Protection Act). These laws are still evolving as different marketing channels are introduced. For example, in 2012, it was expanded to mobile apps and in January of 2014, it was amended to address do-not-track technology. Sounds pretty messy to me.

Hypothetically Speaking… What This Means For Recruiting

light bulb momentHere comes my big “what if.”

What if using a platform like LinkedIn for everything means that marketing, sales AND HR could finally get along? It’s funny, you go to a marketing conference and they talk about hating the sales team. Go to a sales conference, they’ll tell you how they hate marketing. Go to an HR conference, and they too will chime in about hating marketing. They hate that marketing “always says no” or “doesn’t have time to help.”

LinkedIn is the tie that binds in B2B companies. Everyone knows how to use it – it’s not some legacy system that requires trainings and certifications. And if HR could see how marketers actually market in the same system and replicate it for themselves, or even if they could see the effort marketers are putting towards promoting their jobs, could we all live in harmony?

I guess we’ll see what Microsoft does with LinkedIn first.

RecruitingLive with Will Staney

The story you tell is more important than ever. It’s the voice of your company and in a world where almost every candidate is doing their research before even considering applying to your company, your voice better be in tune. In tune with the culture, the passion, and the drive of your team. It also has to be authentic.

That’s not always so easy for companies to figure out in a world of checklists and one too many examples. Most of those employer branding examples suck in the first place and the checklists just lead them to believe they’re doing everything if they check the box. But they aren’t.

If you’re not considering the unique voice, the complexities of a corporate character and the conversation – you’re probably not doing employer branding at all, but rather an impersonation. Forcing a story down people’s throats isn’t exactly authenticity at its prime.

That’s why I’ve invited Will Staney, Founder of Proactive Talent Strategies, LLC and employer branding maestro to be on RecruitingLive this week. He’s a master of creating unique, accurate voices for all types of companies. He’s also fun, funny and really smart – three characteristics of our best RecruitingLive guests.

So if you’re struggling to tell your story, convince executives of the value of employer branding or even just curious to learn about the topic as a whole, don’t miss the show.

Be sure to bring your questions – that’s what RecruitingLive is all about. Your conversations and your questions answered live with the best experts in the industry.

See you there.

LinkedIn’s Latest Acquisition Could Empower Recruiters

LinkedIn quietly acquired PointDrive this week. On the surface, the move looks like a grenade launch at Salesforce. This is not a shock, of course, when we all learned that a big influence on Microsoft buying LinkedIn was because they didn’t want Salesforce to get it.

LinkedIn Acquires PointDrive“PointDrive’s talented team has built an easy-to-use application that allows sales professionals to package, personalize, and deliver polished and engaging sales content to their prospects and customers,” said the company. “Through their product they simplify the buyer-seller conversation in ways that result in more productivity and generate greater efficiency.”

LinkedIn has a solid history of making acquisitions that can easily integrate into their primary service, no matter what one’s profession profession might be. Examples include Slideshare and CardMunch (which was awesome and shouldn’t have been killed, by the way). Salesperson, recruiter and marketer alike can use most of LinkedIn’s acquired services.

PointDrive is built for sales people, making it easy to send prospects a link that breaks down whatever services and products said salesperson is pimping.

“From presentations to images, to links and videos, what they’ve created has quickly gained traction with sales professionals in a wide range of industries,” the company said. “Our very own global sales organization became a PointDrive customer about a year ago and their product has become one of the most valued tools for our teams.”

Here’s a link to a live sales page. Notice it’s customized to a specific sales person. Their demo video goes deep:

PointDrive Demo

It’s not difficult, however, to see how this shiny new tool might help recruiters. These days, sharing the uniqueness of an employer brand comes down to sending a candidate a link to a company’s careers page or maybe a profile page on a job site. Fun, but not very warm and personal.

PointDrive could change that.

With PointDrive, recruiters might easily be able to send candidates a custom page that promotes the finer points of a job or an employer. Then, add to this package the fact that this page comes in a slick interface that’s also mobile friendly – great for text messaging and emails, by the way – and you’ve got something pretty cool.

The reality that jobs on LinkedIn are now posted with a profile photo of the actual person who posted the job means LinkedIn isn’t afraid to connect postings and companies with actual recruiters and hiring managers. So, why not go one step further and empower these recruiters to share slick, sales-like pages to candidates on top of their LinkedIn profile.

 

About the Author

joel-cheesman-headshotJoel Cheesman has over 20 years experience in the online recruitment space. He worked for both international and local job boards in the late ‘90s and early ‘00s. In 2005, Cheesman founded HRSEO, a search engine marketing company for HR, as well as launching an award-winning industry blog called Cheezhead.

He has been featured in Fast Company and US News and World Report. He sold his company in 2009 to Jobing.com. He was employed by EmployeeScreenIQ, a background check company. He currently runs Hire Daily, a site for recruiting news and is the founder of Ratedly, an iOS app that monitors anonymous employee reviews. He is the father of two children and lives in Indianapolis. Yes, he’s on Twitter and LinkedIn.

How Recruiters (And Candidates) Can Still Have Love For Job Interviews.

50-cent-best-musicFor all the talk of “reinvention” in recruiting, for all the products promising to “disrupt” hiring, and for all the banal banter about fixing what’s “broken” in talent acquisition today, the one part of the process that has more or less escaped any modicum of automation, transformation or innovation is perhaps the most important: the job interview.

There’s a reason, unlike the resume or on-premise software or the manifold other job search standbys, the interview has remained more or less above the fray, universally accepted and unilaterally adopted as an inextricable part of the employee screening and selection process.

While technology like video interviewing solutions or structured interviewing software has emerged to add some method to the madness, and some science to the art of going with your gut, interviewing remains a core recruiting competency and perhaps the most important elements of every employer’s hiring process, across all levels and all industries.

It’s generally the last part of the process before a hiring decision is made for a reason – it’s the way we identify which qualified candidates match our company’s corporate culture, our company missions, our visions and our values. The sort of stuff you really can’t get from reading a resume or through a perfunctory prescreen – primarily, the soft skills that enable us to make the hardest of hiring decisions with some degree of confidence and piece of mind.

The Massacre: Why We Still Suck At Job Interviews.

Chemistry counts, and successful candidates often get the nod simply because some intangible, indescribable connection happens between both parties in an interview; the best feedback many hiring managers can give is that the candidate somehow “clicked” – which, of course, is really hidden confirmation bias at work.

Let’s be honest, while you’ve only got one chance to make a first impression, there are a million ways to screw it up, too – particularly when personal preference, corporate politics and team dynamics are in play (and they always are when it comes to hiring decisions).

Interviews, of course, aren’t just the ultimate selection tool for hiring teams; they’re also imperative for impressing top talent and finding out enough information to do due diligence while also continuing to soft close the candidate, who, if they’re really “A” players, are inevitably in process with other employers or have the sort of choice afforded to candidates on the right side of the skills gap.fiddy

The interview should be about making sure both sides are comfortable with each other, that the move makes sense for both parties and the candidate and the employer alike can feel confident that they’re making the right decision – and the relative stakes are high on both sides of the table.

That’s why as a recruiter, it’s important to make sure you’re able to effectively partner with both your candidates and hiring managers to maximize the relative impact of interviews, enabling employers and candidates to make better decisions when it comes to finding fit when filling reqs.

The end result of adopting these hiring best practices include improved time to fill, higher ratio of offers accepted, improved candidate experience, smoother on-boarding and a demonstrative impact on whatever metrics your company happens to use to define the ever elusive concept of “quality of hire.” But one thing is certain: quality of hire, largely, depends on the quality of the interviewing process informing that hiring decision. If you interview better, obviously, you’ll hire better. It’s not a hard concept to understand.

But since we still seem to be struggling with maximizing the ROI of interviewing and ensuring that it’s more than a perfunctory part of your hiring process, here are some clues every recruiter and employer should look for when it comes to cutting through the crap and transforming job interviews from their greatest weakness to their greatest strength (hint: don’t ask about that stuff).

Hate It Or Love It: How Biases Affect Corporate Culture

50quoteBefore looking outside your organization to source, screen and select a new hire, it’s important to first look inside your company and be able to define more than just precisely why the job matters to the bigger business picture, its primary responsibilities and the requisite experience or expertise requirements you’re looking for, the kind that are inevitably turned into a list of bullet points on your boilerplate JDs.

This stuff is important in recruiting, but even more so are your ability to also accurately assess your company’s values, vision, company culture, EVP and whatever else might be required to ensure that you’re able to compare a prospective employee’s relative strengths and weaknesses against when trying to find “fit.”

And while that concept may remain subjective, amorphous and unquantifiable, let’s go ahead and agree that the goal of recruiting, ultimately, is to make sure fit happens with every hire. Of course, screening candidates against these intangibles, which can often include professional biases, personal preferences or simply that gut feeling upon which most hiring decisions are ultimately based.

Instead of looking for diversity of backgrounds, perspectives or experiences, however, this same need to hire for “fit” leads many hiring teams to look for candidates who look like them, whether or not they’re conscious of the fact that hiring for homogeneity and diversity/inclusion are diametrically opposed concepts.

Combating these forces requires recruiters to essentially intervene, when necessary, and engineer that “click” that often happens organically, particularly when it comes to helping the right candidate make the right impression, even if they might not fit the exact professional profile, personality or pedigree that the hiring team traditionally looks for (a phenomenon which is always unspoken, but often easily seen in most office environments).

Research suggests that hiring decisions usually happen within the first minute of any interview, meaning that first impressions really do count – which is why instead of the widespread autonomy most hiring teams have, successful recruiting requires active intervention to ensure a successful outcome for candidates and employers alike.

Too often, offers are incumbent on things like the mood of the hiring manager at the time (a bad day can sink even the greatest of candidates) or the general demeanor of other interviewers who might approach their interaction with the candidates as an unwelcome distraction instead of a necessary dialogue; when the conversation feels forced instead of free flowing, then it’s almost always a bad sign that things are going south.

By giving hiring managers a set of competencies to screen for or standardized scorecards to rate the relative strengths and weaknesses of each candidate, recruiters can ensure that while not every candidate can “click” or make a great first impression, everyone is at least given an equal opportunity that’s based on feedback, not feeling. Best feel that, my friends.

Window Shopper: The Science Of Smiling and Why It Matters in Job Interviews.

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If there are two things that normally don’t go together, it’s the job search and happiness – and yet for some reason, while we value professional presentation and polished demeanors when assessing candidates, one of the first things we seem to look for in an interview is how passionate or enthusiastic that person appears about the company or opportunity.

This, of course, is almost always vacuum deduction – and research shows that one of the principal ways bias influences this sense of “enthusiasm” is simply whether or not a candidate smiles.

This seems stupid, but we see a candidate smiling, our minds immediately assume good intent, which means that presentation can actually matter more than practice when it comes to candidate selection.

A candidate who’s scowling or seems apathetic, even if that’s the only natural reaction to your dumb ass “tell me about a time when” questions, conversely, will be seen as disengaged and disinterested, even if that’s not actually reflected in their answers or actual verbal interactions. Never question the power of those pearly whites – they’re gold when it comes to subverting subconscious bias.

But recruiters would do well to familiarize themselves with the scientifically proven, innately distinguishable difference between a real, authentic and meaningful smile – known as the Duchenne smile, presumably after the world’s only visibly happy Frenchman, and those “smiles” which are faked, forced or otherwise feigned (there’s no scientific name for this, so let’s just call it “that shit eating grin on every crappy candidate’s face”).

Simply, the Duchenne smile isn’t in the mouth – it’s actually in the eyes. When we smile for real, the muscles around the cheeks and the eyes are engaged, which, in turn, lead to the pulling up of the mouth we normally associate with smiling – mouth muscles have nothing to do with it (although they’re also the muscles responsible for making us frown, which, yes, can indeed be turned upside down, according to kinesiology, neuroscience and Oprah).

Even if your candidate is like the job search version of Olivier, there’s a pretty easy method for recruiters to spot (and stop) method acting in auditions and ensure that even the best actors never get cast in the wrong roles. That’s to look at the candidates eyes, and see if their smile is real – and if you can see it in their eyes (you’re innately wired to do so, by the way), then you know that they’re not faking it. Faking a Duchenne smile is nearly impossible, as its controlled by the limbic system that regulates emotion.

Which means while you can fake enthusiasm, the one thing you really can’t fake is something as simple as a smile. So, hope you’re happy…

Outta Control: Anxiety, Stress and the Job Interview.

50-cent-650-430_credit_sacha-waldmanLook, every interview is more or less engineered for maximum anxiety – you can’t blame anyone for being a little nervous at meeting a bunch of potential coworkers, colleagues, having to impress the hiring team in what’s more or less a transactional, forced and finite interaction with their skills and experience while figuring out for themselves whether or not they even want the damn job or not.

The job interview is exactly why Xanax exists – you’re aware you’re being judged and playing a game, but you never really know the rules – just the optimal outcome, which in most cases, is an offer.

Of course, in most cases, interviews don’t end in offers, but rejection – another aspect of this part of the process that makes the average candidate need to take some sort of chill pill (or shot, for that matter). If you don’t remember the last time you looked for a job, trust me – interviews suck, big time.

The thing is, there’s nothing wrong at all with candidates who may come across a little nervous, tense or distant – recruiters need to remember that this is a nerve wracking experience for even the best candidates, and it’s up to recruiters to help put them at ease and help them become comfortable enough to put their best foot forward when meeting the hiring team.

It’s important to accept that applicants who really care about getting the job should be nervous. It’s how they deal with that anxiety and whether or not they can overcome it during the sometimes panic inducing in-person interviewing process that determine a candidate’s success or failure. Being able to deal with pressure and handle stressful, tense or awkward interactions with aplomb is one soft skill every employer is always looking for.

One key way recruiters can help reduce candidate anxiety is through the psychological concept of “priming for power.” That sounds kind of nefarious, but it simply means that if a candidate feels like they’re in control of the situation, and that if they feel as if they have some modicum of power, no matter how minute that might be, their anxiety will be minimized, since this is generally triggered by the phenomenon of fearing the unknown.

Recruiters and candidates alike know that in a cutthroat, competitive job market, with low unemployment and limited supply of workers with critical skills, like STEM, job seekers are more or less in the driver’s seat, at least for white collar, exempt, experienced positions (the type that occupy most corporate recruiters’ relative req loads).

Reinforcing that the interview is designed to help the candidate make the right choice, that they’ll have the ability to ask questions with impunity and get an authentic, realistic look at the role, its responsibilities and how those fit in with the larger company mission or bigger business picture will reduce candidate stress by underscoring the fact that this is a mutual decision – and that the entire point of the process is to eliminate as much of that element of the unknown as possible.

No candidate can be their best if they’re unnecessarily stressed out or anxious – and with the right coaching and preparation by recruiters, they never have to feel anything but ready to kick ass by the time they move on and meet with the hiring team. Because the only person who really can’t control the outcome of that interview interaction is the recruiter themselves – so if anything, we should be the nervous ones (and are, for the most part).

I’m The Man: Screening For Skills, Not Stories.

wisemenAs an employer, you’ve probably already compiled a job description, with both required and preferred requirements, some sort of rundown of the responsibilities and insight into the department, company or role (even if that’s just bullet points, boiler plates and buzzwords).

These lists, which ask what a candidate can do for you (not what you can do for a candidate), range from simple tasks (being able to use e-mail or a Word Processor, for example, or knowing how to put together a basic Powerpoint deck) to the highly technical, highly complex skills that are so in demand by so many employers today (think: data science, programming, healthcare).

Whether you’re looking for some mouth breather capable of lifting 50 pounds or operating heavy equipment, or you’re looking for a quant in some niche profession with some post-doc professional experience and winning personality (or some similar ‘purple squirrel’), make sure candidates are able to speak to the specific prerequisites listed on the job descriptions using specific examples and observable outcomes; candidates’ skills are more or less worthless unless they can be linked to actual business or bottom line outcomes.

Of course, some highly specialized or esoteric roles might allow some room for a candidate to hyperbolize, misrepresent or flat out BS experience through buzzwords, anecdotes and specious correlations instead of actual causation (or demonstrative results). This is why it’s important for employers to consider adding skills based testing, situational interviewing or some other form of standardized assessment tool to the selection process.

There are a ton of options out there, and no matter how niche the role you’re recruiting for might be, chances are there’s a tool out there that will not only force candidates to show their work, so to speak, but also, to benchmark and baseline every candidates’ relative performance in a standardized, systemic and data driven way to ensure that when you’re putting your money where a candidate’s mouth is, that investment is going to pay off.

Candidates make shit up all the time, but every employer should have some check in place to make sure they don’t get away with it. Besides, that’s the recruiter’s job, thank you very much.

In Da Club: Dress Codes, Discrimination and Job Interview Success.

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It’s easy to judge a book by its cover, and that candidate with the sleeves of tats, pink hair and Hot Topic t-shirt as someone you probably don’t want to put in front of clients or customers (outside the hospitality, retail and adult industries, anyway).

Or that the dude in the three piece suit with diamond cufflinks and the matching Rolex might be an obviously disastrous fit for an entry level or administrative kind of gig.

Yes, these are extreme examples, but recent studies suggest inappropriate dress as being one of the primary reasons employers say they disqualify candidates during the interview process.

The thing is, every company has a different definition of what, exactly, constitutes ‘professional dress,’ even within the same market or industry – or, in many cases, within the same company. For instance, one employer may have a West Coast office where jeans are acceptable at the office, while their East Coast colleagues wouldn’t even think of showing up without a shirt and tie.

Company culture isn’t a monolith, and due to these departmental and market variations, it can often be hard for a candidate to tell what, exactly, they should wear to an interview, even if they do their research. Clothing confirms confirmation bias more strongly than just about any other element, given that we’re looking for people who look like us (subconsciously, at least).

This is also perilous for a candidate, since showing up in a coat and tie to a place where everyone’s in hoodies is as big a faux pas as wearing flip flops to an in person at an I Bank – and they’re rarely offered any actual insight into this. Instead, they have to kind of show up and hope for the best (asking would be seen as stupid, even though recruiters almost never explicitly prepare candidates with detailed instructions on acceptable attire or guidance on what to wear in an interview).

By giving every candidate some sort of written checklist or insight into your company specific dress codes (formal or informal), you’ll remove this wild card and ensure that neither you nor your hiring manager get any of the sartorial surprises that happen all too often at most employers, and that the only “fit” you’ll have to find has to do with what the candidate can do, not what they happen to be wearing.

By providing this information explicitly to a candidate prior to having them come in for an interview, employers can also preempt any gender, age or racially motivated stereotypes or stigmatization that might occur when a candidate is unfamiliar with a company culture, its overall business norms and brand image. We all define “business attire” differently.

Better to make your company’s definition explicit and consistent, so your candidates and hiring managers have one less thing to worry about – and job seekers prove they’re capable of presenting themselves according to your professional standards prior to showing up overdressed, underprepared or “unprofessional” by your standards – which, again, might not be the same ones they’re used to.

This advice seems as obvious as “body language tells you everything you need to know.” Stop rolling your eyes – it’s true. Of course, reading what, exactly, that body language is trying to tell you isn’t always easy. That’s why using the above tips and tricks should help you nail job interviewing (or at least, provide a really good start for most recruiters).

And that should be enough to put a Duschenne smile on any recruiter’s face.

Matt Charney is the Executive Editor of Recruiting Daily. Follow him on Twitter @MattCharney or connect with him on LinkedIn.

Marketing Miss: Recruiting Ads For Clicks

marketing funnyI went to college with marketing in mind. I applied to go to college as a business major. I would become a marketer and write jingles about chips and childhood. Easy enough, I thought. I’m creative. I can do this.

In addition to a lot of extra curricular yet mandatory BS, my first business class was a 6 week introduction to the major; a class the administration required for every incoming freshman, it walked you through each element of a business from operations to finance and teamed you up with people from each major to run a test business. Now, I had enough fun in college not to remember everything I was taught in that course, but I do remember thinking “this is it?”

See, after working retail from the day I turned 16 until I walked into my freshman study that first day, I was already doing real marketing. T-shirts, flyers, even layouts of the floor were part of our strategy, one handed down by the marketers at our headquarters. I knew about the numbers and what it meant to be the best in the region. I knew how to drive results when numbers were down. This class however, to me, was not marketing. I quickly abandoned the marketing degree for a communications degree that gave me the chance to understand advertising, not this weird version of business the marketing degree was trying to sell.

I was mad that those marketing classes weren’t about results. They didn’t talk about lead gen and operating under a budget but rather taught the future of marketing with one eye on the rear view. The courses were built around studying historical marketing trends and completely arbitrary situations that wouldn’t occur in real life. We didn’t purchase media. We didn’t track leads. We didn’t do marketing.

Delivering on Demand

please marketingWith that said, I was never taught how to be a demand generation marketer. I just fell into the role. My first real lesson as a demand generation marketer began when I started working for Camille. Camille was a Silicon Valley all-star. A member of the founding marketing team at Netflix and a few other startups, she was the definition of a mission-oriented marketer. From the day she walked in, I admired her approach – focused on results, not following the book. Startup, of course, should imply that we had little to no budget. We had even less time between every hair-brained idea our CEO pitched and trying to follow leads to make connections and increase sign ups.

Her strategy was simple – test everything, measure it, then do what works. Her first, and most common questions, was usually – “what do the numbers say?” Slowly but surely, the question became a motto and a guide as I made marketing decisions. I learned to iterate rather than go with my gut and it started to work.

It’s even harder to figure out the dashboards and metrics you need to effectively track that, include variables and understanding seasonality – all things I learned in my next true demand generation marketing role at Care.com. I was responsible for understanding how TV drove leads and brand awareness, two pretty soft metrics considering I was moving out of a social media role where I (and everyone else in the field) could still get away with saying “but we have followers!” Some of you are still operating under that model, I might add, but the leadership in this company taught me that followers weren’t good enough. Eyes don’t drive downloads and if we’re going to make a monetary investment in a channel we, as marketers, need to track specific results. It’s all fine and dandy to go viral but if they never remember who it came from, it’s a million views wasted.

They pushed for more tracking, more attribution and more time in Excel than I had ever spent but it was a game changer. One that has stuck with me in every role since then.

Throwback Thursday: Recruiting’s Road To Marketing

job marketingThe recruitment industry has gone through a similar transformation in recent years. We’ve evolved from a no attribution to a… well, it depends on you. Let’s focus on the job ads first, since they’re the primary marketing channel of recruiters with jobs.

We’re going back. Not all the way back to the first job ad but back to the first digital job ad. At the time, because the internet was just becoming a thing and ads were still living in the newspaper, advertisers could get away with charging by character. That’s how the newspaper did it, of course – charging per letter to make more advertising dollars. They were being commissioned for those words. Today, we’d cringe at the idea. That’s what the internet is for, of course. A bunch of words we don’t even need. But back then, that’s how you spread the word on jobs so that’s what you had to do, PLI (pre-LinkedIn, of course).

The digital ad made a big splash at conception driving all types of applies and clicks. It blew people’s minds that this many people could see and were applying to a job. I wish I had been in that first meeting where they realized “whoa… this actually works.” Then, slowly but surely, the job boards killed the newspapers and their model in favor of something that could scale for the new migration to the digital methods.

They proved scale and attraction – two things that will catch the attention of any half decent recruiter or marketer. It was all about finding the most candidates, or at least it was at the time. This was a period when we didn’t talk about jobs going unnoticed because for the first time, jobs were a commodity and one that recruiters were buying and trading for as a currency. It made a lot of people a lot of money so everyone wanted to do it. Duh.

Then there were so many boards competing at so many price points, recruiters started to test attribution. They needed to recognize the true source of hire and they started to find better quality elsewhere. It doesn’t make sense to pay for a click when the click isn’t qualified.

Recruiters began to recognize that volume doesn’t necessarily mean qualified applicants and the more volume, the more time wasted by their team. 400 applies wasn’t impressive any more – it was a stumbling block. One that slowed down recruiter effectiveness.

So, they demanded better and now we have Pay-Per- Application. Because when it all comes down to it, it’s not about getting any candidate – it’s about getting the right one. And if we can’t track a hire back to a source, why would we pay for it in the first place? Pay-Per-Applicant solves two sides of the problem with online advertising. One, it solves for trying to give value to an impression.

Lesson: there’s little to no volume in impressions unless they’re at big scale. The other is that it gives us direct attribution models we can use on our teams to establish the effectiveness of all of the channels, not just the boards. So why are you still paying for impressions when you don’t need eyes at all? Why are you letting people sell you on marketing speak? Wisen up, folks.

j2c-iconEditor’s Note: So, full disclosure – this post is sponsored. I actually had no idea pay-per-application existed before I met with their team and figured out they’re breaking the job board mold. If you’re tired of paying for impressions and clicks that don’t amount to much, visit Jobs2Careers.com/employers.

Here’s Why I’m Joining RecruitingDaily.com

When are you bringing Cheezhead back?

I get this question regularly. For industry vets who are old enough to remember Cheezhead, you probably get it. For those who aren’t, Cheezhead was a blog I wrote from 2005-’09 that can be best explained as TechCrunch-meets-TMZ for the employment space.
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I covered layoffs, launches, startups, dead pools, rumors and speculation. Although I’ve enjoyed occasionally writing on platforms like LinkedIn, Cheezhead, the daily chronicle of the employment industry, has been dead for a long time. Life moved on.

The joy of writing and the passion for this marketplace, however, never died. And this brings us here now and the opportunity to join RecruitingDaily.com.

A couple of months ago, Noel Cocca, RecruitingDaily.com’s CEO, reached out to me and basically said, “Wanna come write for us?” His timing was perfect, as I had recently been an acquisition casualty a few months before and was busy getting a start-up off the ground.

After a few phone calls, we hashed out a deal to bring me on part-time as a contributor on RecruitingTools.com. Here are a few reasons I found the opportunity so appealing:

  • The team. RecruitingDaily.com’s about page reads like a who’s who of industry thought leaders and know-it-alls. The platform reminds me of a radio station complete with a variety of personalities who all bring their own style and expertise. Collaborating and engaging with this group on a regular basis can only make life more interesting.
  • The market. Let’s be honest, the employment industry died for a few years following the Great Recession. Money wasn’t coming into the market and almost no one was doing anything interesting. Events like Microsoft buying LinkedIn exemplify the energy that’s going on, and that vibrancy is exciting to cover.
  • The void. The industry is underserved. Too many good companies, ideas and products get lost in the everyday. Too many rumors aren’t investigated. And too many opinions fail to get shared. I’d like to help change that.
  • The vision. RecruitingDaily.com has big plans and they’re doing interesting things. I’d like to come along for the ride. Hopefully, I can also add some value and bring some new ideas to the table.
  • The pressure … as in, the lack thereof. The idea of relaunching a Cheezhead-type blog gave me an anxiety attack. “Anyone who would start a standalone blog today is nuts” I would say to myself. With publishing platforms like LinkedIn, starting a blog from scratch seemed insane. RecruitingDaily.com is an established content machine, so I have the luxury of standing on the shoulders of giants.

So, here we go. Expect a minimum of three blog posts every week. We’re also bouncing around ideas to create different kinds of content on a variety of different platforms and technologies. It should be fun, but most importantly, stories will be told that otherwise wouldn’t be.

 

About the Author

joel-cheesman-headshotJoel Cheesman has over 20 years experience in the online recruitment space. He worked for both international and local job boards in the late ‘90s and early ‘00s. In 2005, Cheesman founded HRSEO, a search engine marketing company for HR, as well as launching an award-winning industry blog called Cheezhead.

He has been featured in Fast Company and US News and World Report. He sold his company in 2009 to Jobing.com. He was employed by EmployeeScreenIQ, a background check company. He currently runs Hire Daily, a site for recruiting news and is the founder of Ratedly, an iOS app that monitors anonymous employee reviews. He is the father of two children and lives in Indianapolis. Yes, he’s on Twitter and LinkedIn.

The Repair Guy: Candidate Experience Breakdown

car repair for dummiesHave you ever tried to fix a car yourself? It seems pretty easy when you’re watching the YouTube video or reading the tutorial. It’s a step-by-step list – anyone can do it, right? A twist here, a cap there and boom – your car is running like new.

Wait a minute.

So, that’s not quite how it works. If you’ve ever attempted to take on one of these DIY car fixes, you probably already know it isn’t the easiest, especially when you’re taking on the task alone. It’s one thing to work alongside a friend or parent with years of experience, but taking it on with the help of the Internet doesn’t always produce the best results. Why?

There are quite a few variables that can stop us from accomplishing our task and fixing the car. There are the parts. Each part is slightly different based on the make and model, down to the windshield wipers. Ordering the cheapest part off of Amazon usually just leads to a collection of unused car parts in the garage, not a quick car fix. Then, we have to consider how all the parts connect together. Replacing a mirror is simple… until you’re trying to remove an entire door panel and you don’t have the physical strength to pull it apart. It’s not as simple as plug and play – there are wires, screws, pins and plugs – all of which make it increasingly difficult to just replace the window.

We have the right parts, we have the instruction manual, but we don’t know what we need to do in what order to assure success. We don’t know how to operationalize and make it easy because in most cases, this is our first time taking on the task. The complications multiply, as well as frustration, and we’re left in a pool of some blue liquid or parts without getting the project done. It’s a struggle from beginning to end. One I’ve seen metaphorically recreated in the process of creating a candidate experience in our workplaces.

Listening To The Rattle: Finding The Problem

Screen Shot 2016-07-25 at 12.50.25 PMWhen it comes to building the candidate experience, much like working on a car – we start by looking for prescriptive approaches, like the car’s YouTube how-to. We read eBooks, watch webinars and phone friends looking for the linchpin. We’re looking for an answer to the question: How do we build a candidate experience that doesn’t suck?

We look at the list of complaints, one I’m sure we’ve all encountered coming to a new organization.:

  • Your career site isn’t mobile friendly
  • You didn’t provide all the information I want to know about the job (e.g. salary range and benefits information) before I take the time to apply
  • Did you get my application?
  • When will you let me know about your decision? Is the job filled?
  • How long will it take to get me the offer, because I need to give an answer to another company?

On this encounter, we’re not any better informed on what we’re supposed to do – just that we need to do something. But the real question is: why do these things keep happening? No one intentionally wants to create a bad candidate experience, do they?

It’s complicated… at least that is why avoiding change in a process is usually rationalized. It’s also the excuse we use not to fix the car ourselves and pay the hefty fee to the dealership to do the work for us. We don’t necessarily have one answer for every candidate for each of these problems. But the real question – one we often don’t ask is “what are the issues in my organization that cause these bad results?”

In reality, sitting behind the scenes – we know that what the candidate sees is just the tip of the iceberg compared to what is actually happening internally during the recruiting process, even if they’re the ones who have to deal with most of the consequences. Little do they know that beneath the surface company values, compliance, talent acquisition philosophies, the job details and hiring team behaviors drive the experiences. All of which add up to an even bigger challenge in trying to create one candidate experience to rule them all or one “right way.”

That doesn’t leave us with a ton of options to take a systemic approach to your candidate experience process. But it does leave us at a place of self reflection and a moment where we need to go back to the most fundamental question: ‘Is the candidate at the center of each of the recruiting stages of your candidate experience?’

Engine Problems: Putting Candidates First

car fixWhen did we start focusing so much on candidate experience and forget about the candidate? What does it mean to put the candidate at the center? To start, you don’t need to watch a bunch of webinars or read another article. Just start by mapping the end-to-end candidate experience. This is the workplace equivalent of reading all the instructions before we get started. Make sure you limit the scope of this analysis to only look at the world from what the candidate sees, by stage, and by decision status (yes, no, maybe, not reviewed).

Look at each activity (or inactivity – e.g. not following up with every candidate). How much of the process that candidate’s experience is due to the internal demands of the culture? How much is due to limitations in the tools you use?

Once you have mapped the process, look at all the sources of friction that the candidate’s experience – whether forms to fill out, periods of ‘where do I stand’ or gaps in information required to be well prepared for an interaction. Collecting data on each of these sub-experiences allows you to operationalize the candidate experience. Basically, evaluate if each one is adding value for the candidate and focus on activities that reduce candidate experience waste.

A Bolt And Wrench: The Right Tools

toolsOf course, we also know that there are plenty of aspects of the candidate experience that are driven by the tools you have available. And you can definitely fix that. There are two categories of tools to review.

The first are the set of tools that enable the process which both candidate and hiring teams work. The reality is that all tools have their limitations and they may not have the flexibility to perfectly align with both candidate and your organizational needs. So figuring out where tools fall short and how the hiring team can close those gaps is key to candidate success.

The second is to look at the tools that measure the process – metrics like net promoter score or digital marketing techniques to measure abandon and conversion rates at each stage of the application process. Why is that so important? Without measuring the process effectively you cannot optimize and improve. Instead, you are working with anecdotal data and cannot properly apply lean manufacturing principles to reduce friction in the end-to-end process.

Managing the processes to deliver a great candidate experience is a balancing act of competing needs where you try and strike the right balance between the candidate and organizational priorities.


ray (1)About the Author: Ray Tenenbaum
 is the founder of Great Hires, a recruiting technology startup offering a mobile-first Candidate Experience platform for both candidates and hiring teams. Ray has previously spent half of his career building Silicon Valley startups such as Red Answers and Adify (later sold to Cox Media); the other half of his career was spent in marketing and leadership roles at enterprise organizations including Procter & Gamble, Kraft, Booz & Co. and Intuit. Ray holds an MBA from the University of Michigan as well as a bachelor’s in chemical engineering from McGill University.

Follow Ray on Twitter @rayten or connect with him on LinkedIn.

 

Vote For Me: Campaigning For Data

bernie recruitingAlgorithms make a lot of decisions for us, whether we know it or not. They decide what ads we see, what Youtube video plays next and a lot of the experiences we, as digital natives experience today. But what interests me the most is that algorithms the mind uses to make decisions.

Take the election season, for example. As a data scientist, I realize that who we choose in the first place is the consequence of a thousand different inputs from media, relationships and demographics. We’re reminded of the power in our decision simply by logging into our social media channels every day. Despite common sense and political courtesy, you’ll find a lot of people trying to convince each other of one thing or another but even more around election time. I’m not sure why people insist on talking about their views on policy and ideology, but nevertheless it’s prime season for political wars.

Media conglomerates and candidates with too much money are even creating quizzes that help you see how your beliefs and values align with different politicians and their voting records. They make a match based simply on your answers to questions. While there are some obvious indicators for one party or another, actually deciding the right decision based on outcome isn’t so easy. Even with all of those dots of data on certain policies, the bottom line is that we make our decisions based on how we feel about the person, not based on the metrics and inputs. Just like we do about people we hire.

Voter Fraud: Trusting The Unpredictable

george bush voter fraudThe unpredictability of making the right choice in hiring and in elections is a data point too. When we’re uncertain of the outcome, we incrementally become less trusting of the system as a whole. When we can’t justify why a series of points add up to a concept we disagree with, we inevitably point to the unpredictable. The outliers.

But the numbers don’t lie. They can’t. Numbers are inputs for an output and the people creating the formula are the ones that maneuver and twist the information to make the outcome say what they want. However, people are highly unpredictable and “always” isn’t safe territory, even for numbers. Sure, if you’re predicting weather patterns and likelihood of winning the lottery – the numbers are pretty straightforward. Not so much for people.

That’s probably why teams show such disdain for the metrics behind people because they always have an outlier, someone they can point to that doesn’t fit the mold, that’s not fitting into the equation. And when it comes to a data point, it’s easy to cut. When it comes to people? Not so much.

There’s so much more here than a decimal and a digit – it’s a life, a personality, a relationship. Even though hiring with an algorithm has shown promising results for increasing the diversity and quality of your candidate pool while simultaneously decreasing your hiring costs, like any new recruitment technique, it’s been met with skepticism. And any potential benefits of hiring with an algorithm are going to be moot if you can’t convince people of its value in the first place.

Voter Registration: Getting Buy-In On A Big Bet

voter registration recruitingHell, we still haven’t convinced everyone in hiring that they need to be measuring anything so it’s probably safe to assume it will take more than proof to build trust in the value of data driven decisions. People just don’t trust the numbers – almost as much as they don’t trust most politicians. In my experience, it takes a little more than a simple post or persistence. Here are 4 ways I’ve used to get buy-­in for hiring with an algorithm from a reluctant team.

  1. Use statistics to get buy-­in for hiring with data

For the analytical, facts­ and ­figures members of your team, hit them with the stats. Research confirms that this works. Presenting information in a graph decreases people’s initial resistance. Here’s a good stat to convince them: a survey of 100 recruiters found that 91% of them said adopting technology has made their jobs easier by reducing their cost­ per ­hire. Hiring with an algorithm is basically adopting technology to reduce cost ­of­ hire and improve quality­ of ­hire.

Here are some more stats for you: An analysis of more than 300,000 hires found that employees who were hired using an algorithm based on a test that assessed personality, intelligence, and job fit stayed on the job approximately 8% longer ­ and performed just as well as ­ employees hired by human recruiters.

  1. Use storytelling to get buy-­in for hiring with an algorithm

A statistic (ironically) that often gets quoted is, “After a presentation, 63% of attendees remember stories. Only 5% remember statistics.” So for the team members unconvinced by the numbers, tell a compelling story about hiring with an algorithm. Make your storytelling even more persuasive by using social proof: it’s easier to convince someone to change their mind when you provide an example of how someone similar to them benefited.

For example, SAP started using an algorithm to recruit sales people, which saved their recruiters hundreds of hours in manual resume pre­screening and saved them more than $370,000 in annual costs. If SAP doesn’t resonate with your team members, find a testimonial or case study that does.

  1. Start with a small test to get buy­-in for hiring with an algorithm

Some members on your team might be particularly risk­ averse. Or maybe they’re skeptical that hiring with an algorithm is just the latest fad. So start with a small test . This makes it both relatively low ­risk and low ­investment. For example, perhaps you test by adopting the technology for a single role during a specific time frame. It’s ok to insist that partners offer time for testing before you put strain on your HR or IT departments by implementing a large scale tool that doesn’t give the outputs you need.

Your team can assess the quality of the candidates, the time taken to hire, and other recruiting metrics using an algorithm versus more traditional methods of hiring after, for example, 45 days. Once you can quantify and demonstrate the ROI of hiring with an algorithm, even the most skeptical member should be won over.

  1. Talk to your team to get buy-­in for hiring with an algorithm

Probably seems pretty straight-forward but a lot of Type A, data people forget to just talk to the team. Sometimes your team is resistant to change simply because it implies that what we’re currently doing is wrong, not because what you’re doing isn’t right. Listen to your team’s concerns and objections. What is it that they’re worried about with using an algorithm to hire? When you’re able to communicate that you understand the problem your team member is trying to solve, he or she becomes open to hearing your ideas for a solution.

Here’s a case. Maybe the biggest pain point for your team member’s job is time wasted pre­screening unqualified candidates. Replacing this inefficiency with an algorithm should be welcomed with open arms. Or maybe their top priority is increasing the diversity of the candidate pipeline. A study of more than 150 companies found that companies that hired using an algorithm based on a personality assessment had more diverse workforces. Once you figure out what problem your team member is dealing with, you can tailor your messaging on how hiring with an algorithm fits their needs.

You Choose: The Bottom Line

Data can’t work without the right inputs and buy-in from people who believe in the cause. No matter how convincing you think you are, ego leads people to think they’re always right.

It doesn’t help that traditionally, hiring has been considered an art involving human judgment. When you ask someone to remove their idea from the process, we also have to consider the conversation and justify why we’re making the change.

The bottom line is that hiring with an algorithm is more of a science that has the potential to increase the quality of your candidate pipeline while decreasing hiring costs. If that doesn’t hook a recruiting team, I don’t know what will. But I’d say it starts with a better conversation.

ji-a minJi ­-A Min is the Head Data Scientist at Ideal, a talent marketplace for sales professionals that helps recruiters automate candidate sourcing, pre­screening, and shortlisting. Using her Master’s in Industrial­Organizational Psychology, she conducts research on how to best source, recruit, and hire salespeople. You can connect with her on LinkedIn here.

Speak Now: How Voice Search Will Change the World of Job Search and Recruiting.

siri_620-620x320Voice search has become a nearly ubiquitous part of our existence, moving from the margins to the mainstream so quickly it’s hard to believe that just two years ago, only 41% of American adults over the age of 18 reported to having used what had already become a widely available (if not widely adopted) functionality.What a difference a couple of years make; Apple’s recent announcement that it was opening up its popular Siri platform to third party developers was only the most recent signal in this seismic technological shift from typing to talking. With its OK Google platform, the world’s biggest consumer tech property has only driven further adoption and innovation in developing voice command as a core component of UI/UX.

And let’s not forget Amazon’s hit Alexa-powered Echo platform, which should be popping up under most of our Christmas trees this holiday season, if early sales are any indication.  Even venerable Microsoft has gotten into the act with its Cortana platform, making it a native feature of every Windows 10 instance, mobile or otherwise.

It would be easy to dismiss voice controls as just another passing tech fad, akin to Palm Pilots, Google Glass or AOL Chat Rooms. All evidence, however, points to the contrary. Not only is voice search here to stay, but with Siri opening up its platform (and competitors inevitably quickly falling suit), this technology will quickly become even more embedded in even more aspects of our everyday lives.

That includes the job search, too.

Siri and the Future of Job Searching: Why Voice Search Matters for Recruiting and Hiring.

GE-Top-Marketing-Trends-2016Voice search is more than a new means of extending the existing web; it adds new functionality that changes the search. More to the point, this functionality will change how people find jobs.

Let’s start with the basics. First, most people use voice commands on their phones, which means that there is embedding information that doesn’t always exist on the laptop. For example, all phones have GPS, so Siri will know where you are when you ask it something. This matters because if I search for, say, nursing jobs, it will know that I am in Chicago or Phoenix and add that information to the query.Second, voice search tends to go through more data processing than straight text search. For example, we’ve all learned how to “think in Google” – that is, to frame our query in a manner which Google understands. We remove all the little words that don’t add value.

We don’t search “How much does an IT support manager make at IBM?”; instead, we generally search for something more like “IT support salaries IBM.” But on our phones, we are much more likely to ask the first question because it is more conversational.

Siri and the like use more natural language support to take something that sounds more conversational and turn it into something more query-like.

Voice Search & Sourcing: Two Sides of the Same Coin

helloThis means that searches will be very different on a phone voice search. Siri will be interpreting what you meant, rather than what you said.

In voice search, do you want ten thousand results? Or just one? This changes things.

Speaking of conversational, voice searches take into consideration what you just asked previously. If you go to Google and type “Where is Paris, Texas?” and then ask “What’s the best restaurant in Paris?“, it will ignore the first question and deliver restaurant recommendations for Paris, France. Text searches are almost always 100% independent of previous searches. Voice searches will not be.

This means that the process of finding and narrowing down results will start to become more natural as someone requests IT jobs in their area, then starts to filter those jobs based on qualifications or years of experience or management criteria.

The last major change coming with voice search is what people’s intentions usually are. For example, when you search Google and you get 10,000 results, you feel like there’s something helpful for you in there somewhere.

You just have to make adjustments to your query to fine-tune the request until you get something useful. And you’re comfortable clicking three or four links in order to find what you want.

Do You Hear Me Now? 3 Voice Driven Job Search Tips Every Recruiting and HR Pro Should Know.

In voice search, do you want ten thousand results? Or a hundred? What you really want in a voice search is a single result that answers the question and completes the request. Combining that with natural language queries means that people will be relying on longer and longer queries, usually referred to as “long-tail queries” because they don’t get a million searches a week, they get ten. But they get ten a week for years.

So if your prospects are going to be using voice commands to job hunt (and they will), what does that mean for recruiters?

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1: Stop Relying on “Words” and Focus on “Natural Phrases”

Your job descriptions are optimized for specific keywords. Usually they are your job title or career area with some geographic information thrown in. What happens when someone searches “What are great entry-level jobs nearby?”

They won’t find your job titles.

2: Tell More Stories.

Telling stories forces you out of the SEO-keyword-stuffing model. No one tells the story of Romeo and Juliet in a bulleted list. The form of a story dictates that you write in a more natural way, something that will better connect to the manner in which people talk to Siri.

On top of that, stories tend to use longer phrases and sentences than standard job descriptions do. This aligns more with how people ask questions and limits search results, increasing the likelihood that a searcher will get a handful of results rather than tens of thousands.

3: Answer More Questions.

People ask Siri questions that start with queries such as Who and What and Where. Building content in a question and answer structure not only helps you connect to voice searchers, it actually supports conversion rates, as people who are on the fence after reading your job descriptions will feel more comfortable applying because their questions are being answered.

These changes and additions to your jobs and career site will drive more voice search job hunters to you. Luckily, they align with a lot of the things you’ve been thinking about lately (employer brand, using content to differentiate, answering questions, etc.).

The rise of Siri should give you more motivation to change the way you are marketing your jobs online, because if you’re not already embracing voice driven search as an integral component of your overall search strategy, then chances are, you’re already falling behind your competition. The good news is, it’s not too late to turn talk into action and transform the literal voice of the job seeker into real recruiting results.

Hope you’re listening…

Read more on the Meshworking blog from TMP Worldwide.

ellisAbout the Author: As the VP of Inbound Marketing at TMP Worldwide,James Ellis has been a digital strategy thinker of the MacGyver/Mad Scientist school: hacking disparate digital ideas together to serve a strategic business objective.

Whether it was bringing Bucky Badger to the social world or content marketing to the pharmaceutical space, James pushes boundaries regardless of the industry. He currently helps Fortune 500 companies attract and retain the best employees.

Connect with James on LinkedIn, follow him on Twitter@TheWarForTalent or check out his work at SaltLab. 

RecruitingLive with Katrina Collier

 

They call it “social media” but I’m unclear when it transitioned from social to just that annoying thing we call media. Social implies that we talk, we converse and we build a relationship – not that we blast and budget to force a conversation. Across the board, we’ve started treating these social mediums like a TV ad – 30 seconds of promotion to inspire instead of playing the long game and developing a real relationship.

Bad tactics drive bad results. Which means we’re left with a really low candidate response rate, even while the job market is booming. What used to work when social media was still a “new thing” doesn’t work any more. It’s time for a serious change but most simply don’t know where to start. They know they should be using social media for recruiting but the how? Not so obvious.

It’s simply reprehensible that anyone thinks they can get away with tweeting a job with a bunch of hashtags and calling it “social recruiting” in this day and age, yet it’s still happening. A lot. Proof. 

That’s why I’ve invited Katrina Collier to join me for the next RecruitingLive. She is a social recruiting specialist and keynote speaker who understands the right strategies for making social recruiting work. With her creativity and low threshold for BS, she’s going to demystify the perceived complexities of making social media perform in a recruiting context and teach all of us how to drive better social recruiting experiences and improve candidate response rates.

Bring your questions, comments and ideas. That’s what RecruitingLive is all about. Our agenda is driven by your questions, comments and curiosities.

See you there…

Brick of Hashtag: Why Recruiters Need to Kick Their Twitter Habit.

cheechchongrule_by_caleblewisI’ll admit that I joined Twitter somewhat reluctantly; unlike, say, Facebook, which is instantly intuitive and almost universally acceptable, Twitter seemed, in the halcyon days of social media, something akin to the online version of the AV Club. It was more or less a bunch of nerds, fanboys and techies flinging back and forth seemingly indecipherable messages with their own syntax and style. Remember when # used to be called a “pound sign?”

Yeah, back in those days, when it was me and a few hundred thousand of my nerdiest friends tweeting almost exclusively articles about how to use Twitter, as even in 2008, being meta about social media was second only to automated Mashable feeds in terms of most “professional” Twitter feeds (the only ones I paid attention to in a time when I couldn’t GAF about anything other than gaining followers, getting paid and occasionally, making myself laugh (and mostly no one else) with some bit of snark.

I hadn’t heard the word ‘snark,’ by the way, until a review of my Monster account (@Monster_Works, for all you OGs out there #PourOneOut) by Laurie Ruettimann, who used it in a recommendation to follow the account in some article about “companies getting social right.” I didn’t really know, or care, about most HR bloggers out there at the time other than feigned interest for PR purposes, but LFR was, and is, my favorite HR blogger and a very big deal.

I figured I was doing something right – at least, that shout out earned me a bunch of internal kudos, thank you very much, Laurie. So I’ve stuck with snark every since. It’s paid mixed dividends, although I can’t say I have any regrets as to the way I’ve played the game.

But it comes time, of course, to acknowledge that the game has changed somewhat. Which is to say, now that we pretty much know Twitter for recruiting doesn’t work, that’s not seeming to stop people from continually getting high on hashtags as part of their recruiting strategy, which is really too bad considering, my friends, this trip isn’t going to end well – and the come down is really going to suck for most of you who are doubling down your investments in the shady, suspect and spurious scam of social recruiting.

202-Up-in-Smoke-quotesFar Out, Man: Reevaluating Social Recruiting.

That’s why instead of dismiss Twitter as a giant drain of time and energy for minimal recruiting ROI, a sourcing money pit whose trendiness has always far outweighed its actual utility, I’m going to acknowledge that in the approximately 8 years or so recruiters have been talking about using Twitter, fully 91% of employers recently reported to having used this platform for recruiting over the last year. That’s pretty much a near universal adoption of a network that used to be seen by myself and many others in the HR and recruiting industries with a mixture of disbelief and disdain at Twitter being leveraged as a TA tool. A fool and his money, as they say, spend on growth metrics like followers, reach and “influence” (a nebulous concept at best, much less a statistically valid reporting capability) – the rest of recruiters, it seems, are still plugging away and tweeting at the windmill, so to speak.

You need to go no further than to Google “recruiters on Twitter” to see that somehow, 43 million unique pieces of content have been created about a topic that’s specious at best, snake oil at worst, the Toyota truck of source of hire – after the apocalypse, automated job feeds are going to be one of the only technologies that somehow still works. Karma’s a bitch like that. Recruiters, similarly, have stopped being content at being good at filling reqs, advancing their business and bottom line and ensuring their hiring managers and candidates are happy. Everyone now wants to be a “thought leader,” or an “influencer,” or an “expert,” and Twitter, of course, is the default platform for this sort of douchebaggery. And don’t forget to pick up your copy of Dan Schwabel’s newest book today at a Kinko’s near you…

Here’s the thing. Since we’re not going to shut up about Twitter, I thought I’d actually share some tips and tricks that might make it suck less – I’m not promising anything here other than you all seem dead set on using this platform as a recruiting channel, and if like 8 years of friggin’ articles about how asinine and specious it all is keep falling on deaf ears, screw it. I’ll pass along some things I’ve found that have worked on my journey to figure this whole social thing out, one that’s been around about as long as the concept of “social recruiting” itself.

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Up In Smoke: 3 Easy Twitter Tips for Sucking Less at Social Recruiting.

Remember, there’s no such thing as one-size-fits-all advice for any social network, except for this: the only way to figure it out is to do it and see what works for you. All other advice is either trying to sell you product or some sort of consulting service. The below list should not be construed as advice, only things you should probably keep in mind before continuing to tweet out total crap as a matter of course (and under the misconception that somehow this is a “best practice,” which it is not.

1. Nice Dreams: Twitter Analytics Are BS.  Seriously. They were made up to give what’s pretty much a basic SMS service some sort of pseudo-scientific “credibility,” as well as some number, any number, to justify associated spend and advertising dollars. Almost any business case for using Twitter throws in stats about “fishing where the fish are,” touting its huge number of global users – about 310 million active accounts in Q1 2016 – and that users send 500 million tweets a day, or that 45% of Twitter users are in the coveted 18-29 “Gen Y” demographic.

These sound impressive, but while recruiting spend and presence increases YoY on Twitter, that trend and the rosy social recruiting headlines are selective, out of context and almost always omit some of the reasons Twitter’s stock has remained in the shitter after its much ballyhooed IPO. Try to build a business case for increased spend based on these less publicized Twitter usage statistics, ones that kind of prove that any long term benefits of a successful Twitter recruiting strategy, while minimal, would likely be fleeting. Twitter, sadly, is already dying off.

Consider that while over 80% of workers report looking for new jobs online during regular working hours, only around 9% of those same workers report to using Twitter while on the job – a pretty wide disconnect between potential candidates and employers trying to reach professional or exempt talent on this network. Supply and demand must work for a source of hire to be successful, and oddly, this might be one channel where there are more recruiters than job seekers. Of course, a Pew study found around 16% of American salaried workers were still blocked from accessing Twitter on their company networks, which might stymie efficacy – and underscore the fact that recruiters might love Twitter, but HR’s still suspicious – suspicions which, conversely, impact their departmental outcomes. Of course, the theatre of the absurd is a SHRM competency, I think.

Some more stats that might surprise you: only 38% of Millennials even have a Twitter account, according to an eMarketer survey, meaning that the utility of this tool to reach this coveted workforce demographic is really a Quixotic task.  They might actually dislike it as much as your standard HRBP; only around 1 in 4 Millennials rank it as their preferred social network, a pretty dismal number for a platform that’s seen by TA as “cutting edge” (of course, color TV falls into that category for many, so there’s that). Twitter has long had fairly stagnant user numbers, likely because while people continue to sign up for the service, many promptly abandon it – in fact, 44% of MAUs reportedly have never actually sent a tweet out from their account. Someone’s listening to something, but most of the conversation is marketing, trolling or links to Business Insider articles.

Before you commit to tweeting and have any expectation of this being an effective recruiting channel either for sourcing or engagement (or just plain old brand awareness), then stop what you’re doing, take a step back and figure out if the people you’re trying to recruit are actually on Twitter. Unless you’re looking for mostly Caucasian, mid-career creative types, salesmen or content marketers, this probably isn’t the most fertile hunting grounds. But that’s not going to stop most recruiters. Just know that it’s not the utopia of potential pipeline prospects everyone seems to think it is. Survey says: that’s a lie.

If your targeted candidates largely avoid Twitter (like most people who aren’t also eating Early Bird Specials at Luby’s or binge watching Murder She Wrote), then you don’t actually need to make it a part of your recruiting processes or programs. It’s like paying for ads targeting veterans in Mother Jones or Global HR Leaders in Wired or Crunchbase; it’s not going to work, and if you don’t recognize that targeting is key to scalable, sustainable sourcing, slating and selection strategies, then you’re never going to find a fit, because there’s probably no way in hell they’re going to find you.

I’d bet that even if you’re the world’s most proficient social recruiter, and headline every conference dedicated to selling this idea that social media is the future of talent, you’d still be better served spending your time and money elsewhere. Seriously, it’d be hard to find a platform with either worse ROI or meaningful metrics to support associated spend – well, that is outside of a career fair or radio ad. Which, by the way, both kicked Twitter’s ass as a source of hire last year #JustSaying.

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2, Far Out Man: No One Wants to Hear About Your Stupid Employer Brand.

The worst thing any recruiter on Twitter can do is use some automated tool for scheduling and synch up all their networks with the same automated feed, so that every time their company posts a job, there’s some shit tweet that’s put out there automatically letting the exactly zero qualified people who might be looking at what some company career handle is tweeting during a workday for a job they’d want in a location that’s viable.

Seriously, if you like those odds, then you are incredibly lucky or know absolutely nothing about how math works. Recruiters, we can assume, are about evenly split between these two scenarios, meaning that those obnoxious “job alerts” with unnecessary #Hashtags, requisition codes and misformatted content aren’t going away anytime soon.

Don’t worry. 77% of all people who have ever sent a tweet only send one tweet ever from their account – it’s the ultimate hit it and quit it. So at least you’re owning share of voice with that god awful “social recruiting” integration your ATS vendor is selling and your 3 followers could give two shits about…

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Well, in over a year of tweeting, the world’s most profitable company, Exxon Mobil, and one of its largest multinational employers, to boot (instigating regime change in developing nations takes headcount, you know), somehow has only amassed a paltry 638 followers. This is out of 84,000 current employees, by the way – and if you can’t get your employees to follow your careers account, how do you expect passive talent to do so? Even if you’re capable of propping up warlords and robbing the planet and future generations of renewable energy, you still can’t power your way to anyone giving a crap about your social recruiting. I use this as an example only to show that you’re probably fighting an uphill battle, even if you have a huge chunk of the world’s strategic petroleum reserve. Given you probably don’t, you should probably realize you’ve got better shit to do.

But I’m probably still not fully discouraging your social recruiting shenanigans, so let’s talk about how you present yourself as a person, not as a douchey brand. Social media is about people engaging with people, not consumers “joining the conversation” with brands or taking lemming like leaps into your talent pool just because you bought some point solution that has a built in Twitter integration. No one wants to talk to an avatar, but people are willing to engage with someone who knows their shit, shares valuable content and mixes a little personality and voice into their updates instead of just blasting CTAs all day.

So if you’re building a brand on Twitter, make yourself the center of the campaign. Your employer brand is a road to nowhere, at least as far as Twitter activation is concerned. Don’t believe me, ask @WalMartCareers, who represent the nation’s largest private sector employer and maintain a ubiquitous domestic brand presence, yet in over 6 years of social recruiting somehow have only managed just north of 25k followers, many of which appear to be bots or fake accounts designed to talk shit on Wal-Mart’s employment policies, worker treatment and the sort of baseless redneckery you could expect from anyone who’d engage with WalMart on Twitter. Insert Forrest Gump reference here.

I throw these examples in there as proof that if you don’t have a huge presence or the desire to try to make even the slightest noise in the din that is social media as a recruiter, then it’s OK. Neither do Fortune 5 employers, and somehow, it’s working out for their P&L and return on shareholder value, those benchmarks of conscious capitalism. Hell, even Twitter can’t make money on Twitter, but the companies out there doing case studies and extolling their social sourcing strategies and stuff have so much cash they can throw it away for nothing more than the illusion of goodwill and “candidate experience.” And so recruiters can look cooler than the phone monkey prescreen bots they are in most enterprise organizations – hey, you can search job board databases AND share inspirational quotes via branded hashtag? Let me guess. Wharton?

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3. After Hours: No Chill, No Candidates.

In the years I’ve been interacting with recruiters on Twitter, I’ve seen a pretty wide range of styles, but most are just as bad as those of their employers’ B2B accounts – and similarly, are obviously somewhere between an implied obligation and a half-hearted attempt to look like a badass. If you try, it never works, you know, which is why I’d caution recruiters to be much more selective about how they position themselves on Twitter.

First off, you have to actually put some thought into your photo so you don’t creep people out – you know who I’m talking about, we all have one of those Mr. Harvey looking mofos lurking in the cornfield of our online communities waiting for Chris Hansen to pour him Lemonade. Or the HR Gal who clearly is using a picture from 1986, since you can see the fold down the middle, she’s busting an all LA Gear ensemble and has those crimped bangs that make the boys go wild. They did, back in the Reagan days, I’m sure, but for now, stop billing yourself as a “Gen Y” expert and go fight some crime with your rock band of holograms or something. Or, you know, payroll.

And there’s always the guy who is singlehandedly keeping Glamour Shots in business with some posed vaseline lens and a bunch of over the top stage makeup that looks like a community theatre production of the Mikado, but with slightly more pensive expressions and holding one’s chin while looking while looking wistfully off camera. Who are you people and where do you come from? Do you seriously as a recruiter think that someone wants to do business with an obvious sociopath, shady businessperson or someone with a headshot featuring a glittered background?

2016-07-21_05-11-19I mean, no candidate you want to hire is going to ever, ever give you the time of day if you look like a total tool. Which you probably already do to most, considering you talk about recruiting somewhere in your bio or use phrases like “performance and learning guru.” Give that picture some thought, and if you have a face that even a Conde Nast photo retoucher or Leeza Gibbons’ plastic surgeon couldn’t salvage, than just leave up the damn egg they give you when you open the Twitter account as a default. An egg is innocuous. This guy? Not so much.

Unless, you know, you’d like to catch a women’s volleyball game after church with this guy sometime. Sorry to randomly pick on you, but since you’re a “recruitment and migration expert,” you’re pretty much fair game, Professor Creeper.

Speaking of, you only get 140 characters for your bio – and you should probably make them count if you’re using this for recruiting purposes instead of wasting real estate in the hopes that this mention of some quote from Leviticus will finally convince people to accept salvation (#Christian #Blessed) or telling the world about being a “proud husband” or “loving wife” to @SomeOtherDBOnTwitter, or throwing in a bunch of specious hashtags, cringeworthy descriptors like “ninja,” “guru,” “rock star” or “thought leader” or any of the extra stuff that you might think makes you stand out, but really doesn’t do you much for recruiting, particularly if all that comes up on a Google search of your name is a LinkedIn profile, a list of Facebook accounts from people with your same name, and that creepy ass picture of you next to a bio in which you describe your interest in the art of clowning and #EmployeeEngagement #HRChat #CATSOFTWITTER.

Not only is that not going to generate candidates, it’s probably going to get the ones who do actually see your profile to avoid you like the plague, a Cybercoders account manager or an InMail originating somewhere in the subcontinent.

Getting a response is never easy, but you can easily shoot yourself in the foot before you even type your first tweet. When composing a bio as a recruiter, remember that this is an elevator pitch, and while you want to stand out (include some interesting personal stuff, like if you climb mountains or played D1 Lacrosse or have a black belt in Krav Maga, all of which I’ve seen recently), you also want to get your message heard loud and clear: you’re a recruiter, you work for this company and you hire this type of person. That’s 160 characters right there. You need every one of them.

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Social Recruiting: Still Smoking or Completely Cashed Out?

No one probably wants another recruiter in their network, spamming their feed with “job alerts” and links to employer brand content with the same production value as an AngelFire page written at the same reading level as Highlights for Children or HR Magazine – so don’t be just another recruiter. Be you, and be real, and you might just be OK on Twitter. Remember, if you have a personality, then let it show through in your tweets – you never have a second chance to make a first impression, and someone wants to connect and follow people who are going to add more value than the occasional job tweet, article from LinkedIn Pulse or an inspirational quote cribbed from an old episode of Super Soul Sunday.

Look, we’ve already discussed that volume metrics are complete and utter BS, which means if you’re in this social recruiting thing with the expectation of ROI, then you should stop worrying about how many followers you have and how many tweets you send (and reach, impressions and Klout, among the myriad of made up math. You’re only as good as your last tweet, so treat every update like it’s going to be seen by that purple squirrel passive candidate who is going to be your next hire, and you should be OK. Just don’t sell your jobs. Sell yourself.

Twitter works for building relationships at scale, or facilitating interactions and connections. It augments sourcing and pipelining efforts, but will never replace in-person conversations, 1:1 interactions and the other social stuff that’s always been a part of recruiting, even before “social recruiting” became a thing. Recruiting has always been about building relationships, which is why Twitter works when you focus on the interaction instead of the information, but never the other way around. This takes a ton of time, has no guarantee of ROI and requires you wanting to be on this platform not because it’s the thing to do, but because you have something to say. If you don’t, well, then the last thing anyone needs is another recruiter on Twitter who has no idea how the hell this social media thing works.

Because most of the time, it doesn’t, really. But if we’re going to keep playing pretend, at least know that everyone’s going to probably ignore your recruiting related Twitter account in the first place, so at least have some fun with the damn thing before your boss tells you to put down the phone and get back to work. #TrueStory

Respect: Find Out What It Means To Recruiting

aretha respectWhen I say car salesmen, what do you think of? I imagine some of the first words would be slimy or sneaky. Needless to say, it’s not usually the best connotation. Even the mental image is probably consistent – slicked back hair and a bad suit. We’ve made these mental notes from folklore and tales of mistakes made along the way,  trusting the guy on the other side of this transaction.

But the car salesmen of today aren’t the old-school sneaky guys they used to be. They’re not all compensated in commissions and their intent isn’t to get you in any car- it’s about the right car. They’ve had a lot of training – on the job and through the company and know a lot about the cars, the competition and consultative sales. I can’t speak for everyone – there are always a few bad apples – but there are good folks. I know a few of them.

Another level of word association, now. Dream car. What image comes to mind? While it could be any kind of car, I guarantee you’re not thinking about the guy who sells it to you. You’re thinking about your status and who you’ll impress. You’re not thinking about the guy who came through for you with that lower interest option and made the dream happen. You’re not thinking about the guy who sat through 6 test drives as you hesitantly made your decision. It’s kind of unfortunate. He still has a bad rap. Just like recruiters. But I sell something that people want even more than a brand new car, but I can’t get no r-e-s-p-e-c-t.

What you want? Baby I Got

respectI’ve dedicated the better part of my life to recruiting. This is more than a job for me. It’s my passion, and the possibility of matching good people and good jobs is still more than enough to get me out of bed amped to do what I do (and do so well) each and every morning.

That I’ve built a long track record of successful results, not to mention a ton of subject matter expertise and hands on experience, should be enough to at least ensure that I’m not summarily dismissed and disrespected just because I spent my career focused on the business of hiring. But even to this day, when I pick up the phone to cold call a candidate or open a req with a new hiring manager, I know all of that doesn’t really matter to my candidates and clients.

I’m frequently reminded of one of the painful realities of being part of this industry – that no matter how much you’ve proven yourself in the past, you’ve got to constantly and consistently prove that you’re more than just another recruiter. You’ve got to demand respect.

While I’m not holding my breath for any ticker tape parades, one of these days, just maybe, someone could recognize my work  and every other recruiter out there who works hard, plays fair and tries to do right by doing good, no matter how much the odds seem stacked against a search.

As a recruiter, that’s the real meaning of respect: paying attention to, or at least acknowledging, the sweat equity I put into this business and the decades (literally) I’ve spent training myself how to be the best recruiter I can be, and educating others to do the same. It may not be rocket science, but there is skill and know-how involved in recruiting and hiring top talent.

Proficiency is appreciated in pretty much every other profession; in recruiting, wins are often dismissed by the assumption that anyone could do this job, (which I guess might technically be true.) That being said, only a handful of the hundreds of thousands of “recruiters” out there have developed the skills and dedicated the sweat equity required to be a truly world class talent acquisition leader.

I’m lucky to be able to call quite a few of them friends, but watching the way even the best in the business get treated reminds me of just how little the rest of the world at work recognizes, much less respects, that magic that only happens when a great recruiter, a great opportunity and a great candidate collide.

That intrinsic satisfaction of a job well done is, for me, enough of a motivation to keep at it, even if I already know no one but me (and sometimes, my candidates) are likely to notice everything that goes on behind the scenes, and all the hard work required to make a search run smoothly. I’m not being dramatic when I say that I friggin’ love recruiting. I just think it’s just too bad that more people don’t seem to recognize the amount of artistry involved in sourcing, screening and selection.

I Get Tired, Keep On Tryin’

I get tired arethaNow, I’m not asking for respect across the board, necessarily; respect should be earned. But recruiters as a group are often dismissed and derided by folks who think their jobs are harder. Other than the handful of posts you might come across from me or another practitioner who’s frustrated with antipathy with which we’re sometimes treated, you’d be hard pressed to find many outside voices supporting the idea that recruiting isn’t just a viable profession, but a respectable (and even noble) one, too.

The problem, of course, is that the people making us look bad don’t actually read those posts. They don’t do the work. They don’t listen. That’s the other piece of respect. Shutting up to listen long enough to not just hear but process what the other person is saying and put that idea into action. They don’t see how that InMaul, as Levy coined, is not just hurting them but every recruiter who tries to contact a candidate on the site. They don’t realize the consequences of their awful candidate experience and the bad impression they leave on candidates they never respond to. They don’t see their impact when in reality, they’re changing lives every day.

I’m not delusional enough to believe that my rants are really making any real change, or that those of us with an axe to grind and a platform to publish on are really doing anything more than simply venting our frustrations. But the silence we receive in response can be deafening, sometimes. Hell, there are days as a recruiter where I practically feel like I need some sort of support group or self help program just to keep holding my head up when things get tough (and in this business, they always do).

Recruiters deserve better than this. We deserve respect and contrary to popular belief, many of us have actually earned it.

Derek ZellerAbout the Author: Derek Zeller draws from over 16 years in the recruiting industry. The last 11 years he has been involved with federal government recruiting specializing within the cleared Intel space under OFCCP compliance. He is currently serves as Technical Recruiting Lead at Comscore.

He has experience with both third party agency and in-house recruiting for multiple disciplines and technologies. Using out-of-the-box tactics and strategies to identify and engage talent, he has had significant experience in building referral and social media programs, the implementation of Applicant Tracking Systems, technology evaluation, and the development of sourcing, employment branding, military and college recruiting strategies.

You can read his thoughts on RecruitingDaily.com or Recruitingblogs.com or his own site Derdiver.com.  Follow Derek on Twitter @Derdiver or connect with him on LinkedIn.

Go for Gold: Announcing a New Partnership with Bullhorn and Herefish

herefishWhat happens in your ATS to candidates that you don’t hire? If you have been recruiting as long as I have they could fall into the infamous Recruiting black hole to never be seen again. But as they say, “there’s gold in thar them hills.” Thankfully, earlier this year I introduced you to a product called “Herefish.” Herefish is a product designed to help you find the gold, in this case, forgotten candidates.

Today, Bullhorn and Herefish announced a new partnership. Herefish will now be part of the Bullhorn Marketplace™, a partner community for industry-leading business applications that are pre-integrated to work seamlessly with Bullhorn and enhance the platform’s capabilities.

Why do I need Bullhorn and Herefish?

“Today’s best candidates are harder to attract than ever before, yet most companies never engage the candidates they worked so hard to find,” said Jason Heilman, co-founder of Herefish. “Integrating with Bullhorn makes the process of building relationships with these candidates even easier, especially as candidates’ expectations and opportunities are quickly changing.”

715a7524-ea3c-4cb0-9679-340029367f19The best part about Herefish has always been their ability to nurture and track a potential candidate’s activity on your site. As candidates open emails, click articles and view jobs, Herefish learns their interests, personalizes messages, and adjusts the frequency of emails to capture their attention. Now with this partnership, it should be even easier.
“The multitude of candidate data that staffing firms maintain is their competitive advantage and using those insights to powerfully engage candidates is critical in the current job market,” said Nina Eigerman, Bullhorn’s vice president of alliances and business development. “Integrating with Herefish will help its customers easily foster their candidate relationships and turn them into strategic hires.”
There is no reason to reinvent the wheel. You have tons of candidates in your database that you are not looking at. Some could be your next hire or your best ambassador. With this partnership, your job just got easier. Just remember to go for the gold.

Read my review about Herefish by clicking here.

 

The Voice: Resonating Bias?

i want youThe whole concept behind the show “The Voice” is pretty simple. Take a bunch of artists and have them sign for four judges with their backs are turned. The tension builds as people of all shapes and sizes perform one by one in hopes they can get this famous musician’s attention with voice alone. The concept arose out of a bit of body-shaming and bad blood for the other talent shows because for a long time, we watched people get booted from American Idol by Simon Cowell for not having “the look.” We just started to assume it was a game for the prettiest, not the most talented. Not exactly inspiring for those of us who don’t look like supermodels.

Based on the awards (or lack thereof) that any winner has taken home, I’d say they haven’t quite found the model for award winning musicians but they have given chances to people who may not have won on talent alone, even if every show says that’s the deciding factor.

That got me thinking – do we really think someone sounds better just because of how they look? How does our brain attach a face to a sound or make meaning from something we see quickly? Our brain is built to make connections from one thing to another, many times a fallacy – and we don’t know any better. I was curious how this might play in the interview room.

Traditionally, interview are scary. That’s why we created – interviewing.io. Shameless plug – I’ll only do one – it’s a platform where people can practice technical interviewing anonymously and, in the process, find jobs based on their interview performance rather than their resumes. Since we started, we’ve amassed data from thousands of technical interviews, and routinely share some of the surprising stuff we’ve learned.

So I wanted to take a Voice-esque philosophy and put it into practice of hiring. We built real-time voice masking to investigate the magnitude of bias against women in technical interviews. In short, we made men sound like women and women sound like men and looked at how that affected their interview performance. We also looked at what happened when women did poorly in interviews, how drastically that differed from men’s behavior, and why that difference matters for the thorny issue of the gender gap in tech.

The Setup

GwsVFx4GGloCGxU=When an interviewer and an interviewee match on our platform, they meet in a collaborative coding environment with voice, text chat, and a whiteboard and jump right into a technical question. Interview questions on the platform tend to fall into the category of what you’d encounter at a phone screen for a back-end software engineering role, and interviewers typically come from a mix of large companies like Google, Facebook, Twitch, and Yelp, as well as engineering-focused startups like Asana, Mattermark, and others.

After every interview, interviewers rate interviewees on a few different dimensions.

Feedback form for interviewers

Feedback form for interviewers

As you can see, we ask the interviewer if they would advance their interviewee to the next round. We also ask about a few different aspects of interview performance using a 1-4 scale. On our platform, a score of 3 or above is generally considered good.

Women historically haven’t performed as well as men…

One of the big motivators to think about voice masking was the increasingly uncomfortable disparity in interview performance on the platform between men and women1. At that time, we had amassed over a thousand interviews with enough data to do some comparisons and were surprised to discover that women really were doing worse. Specifically, men were getting advanced to the next round 1.4 times more often than women. Interviewee technical score wasn’t faring that well either — men on the platform had an average technical score of 3 out of 4, as compared to a 2.5 out of 4 for women.

Despite these numbers, it was really difficult for me to believe that women were just somehow worse at computers, so when some of our customers asked us to build voice masking to see if that would make a difference in the conversion rates of female candidates, we didn’t need much convincing.… so we built voice masking. I knew in order to achieve true interviewee anonymity, hiding gender would be something we’d have to deal with but put it off for a while because it wasn’t technically trivial to build a real-time voice modulator. Some early ideas included sending female users a Bane mask. When the Bane mask thing didn’t work out, we decided we ought to build something within the app, and if you play the videos below, you can get an idea of what voice masking on interviewing.io sounds like. In the first one, I’m talking in my normal voice.

And in the second one, I’m modulated to sound like a man.2

Armed with the ability to hide gender during technical interviews, we were eager to see what the hell was going on and get some insight into why women were consistently underperforming.

The Experiment

pharrell The setup for our experiment was simple. Every Tuesday evening at 7 PM Pacific, we host what we call practice rounds. In these practice rounds, anyone with an account can show up, get matched with an interviewer and go to town. And during a few of these rounds, we decided to see what would happen to interviewees’ performance when we started messing with their perceived genders.

In the spirit of not giving away what we were doing and potentially compromising the experiment, we told both interviewees and interviewers that we were slowly rolling out our new voice masking feature and that they could opt in or out of helping us test it out. Most people opted in, and we informed interviewees that their voice might be masked during a given round and asked them to refrain from sharing their gender with their interviewers. For interviewers, we simply told them that interviewee voices might sound a bit processed.

We ended up with 234 total interviews (roughly 2/3 male and 1/3 female interviewees), which fell into one of three categories:

  • Completely unmodulated (useful as a baseline)
  • Modulated without pitch change
  • Modulated with pitch change

You might ask why we included the second condition, i.e. modulated interviews that didn’t change the interviewee’s pitch. As you probably noticed, if you played the videos above, the modulated one sounds fairly processed. The last thing we wanted was for interviewers to assume that any processed-sounding interviewee must summarily have been the opposite gender of what they sounded like. So we threw that condition in as a further control.

The results

christinaAfter running the experiment, we ended up with some rather surprising results. Contrary to what we expected (and probably contrary to what you expected as well!), masking gender had no effect on interview performance with respect to any of the scoring criteria (would advance to next round, technical ability, problem solving ability). If anything, we started to notice some trends in the opposite direction of what we expected: for technical ability, it appeared that men who were modulated to sound like women did a bit better than unmodulated men and that women who were modulated to sound like men did a bit worse than unmodulated women. Though these trends weren’t statistically significant, I am mentioning them because they were unexpected and definitely something to watch for as we collect more data.

On the subject of sample size, we have no delusions that this is the be-all and end-all of pronouncements on the subject of gender and interview performance. We’ll continue to monitor the data as we collect more of it, and it’s very possible that as we do, everything we’ve found will be overturned. I will say, though, that had there been any staggering gender bias on the platform, with a few hundred data points, we would have gotten some kind of result. So that, at least, was encouraging.

So if there’s no systemic bias, why are women performing worse?

After the experiment was over, I was left scratching my head. If the issue wasn’t interviewer bias, what could it be? I went back and looked at the seniority levels of men vs. women on the platform as well as the kind of work they were doing in their current jobs, and neither of those factors seemed to differ significantly between groups. But there was one nagging thing in the back of my mind. I spend a lot of my time poring over interview data, and I had noticed something peculiar when observing the behavior of female interviewees. Anecdotally, it seemed like women were leaving the platform a lot more often than men. So I ran the numbers.

What I learned was pretty shocking. As it happens, women leave interviewing.io roughly 7 times as often as men after they do badly in an interview. And the numbers for two bad interviews aren’t much better.

So, if these are the kinds of behaviors that happen in our microcosm, how much is applicable to the broader world of software engineering? Please bear with me as I wax hypothetical and try to extrapolate what we’ve seen here to our industry at large. And also, please know that what follows is very speculative, based on not that much data, and could be totally wrong… but you gotta start somewhere.

If you consider the attrition data points above, you might want to do what any reasonable person would do in the face of an existential or moral quandary, i.e. fit the data to a curve. An exponential decay curve seemed reasonable for attrition behavior, and you can see what I came up with below. The x-axis is the number of what I like to call “attrition events”, namely things that might happen to you over the course of your computer science studies and subsequent career that might make you want to quit. The y-axis is what portion of people are left after each attrition event. The red curve denotes women, and the blue curve denotes men.

Now, as I said, this is pretty speculative, but it really got me thinking about what these curves might mean in the broader context of women in computer science. How many “attrition events” does one encounter between primary and secondary education and entering a collegiate program in CS and then starting to embark on a career? So, I don’t know, let’s say there are 8 of these events between getting into programming and looking around for a job. If that’s true, then we need 3 times as many women studying computer science than men to get to the same number in our pipelines. Note that that’s 3 times more than men, not 3 times more than there are now. If we think about how many there are now, which, depending on your source, is between 1/3 and a 1/4 of the number of men, to get to pipeline parity, we actually have to increase the number of women studying computer science by an entire order of magnitude.

Prior art, or why maybe this isn’t so nuts after all

mediaIn a study investigating the effects of perceived performance to likelihood of subsequent engagement, Dunning (of Dunning-Kruger fame) and Ehrlinger administered a scientific reasoning test to male and female undergrads and then asked them how they did. Not surprisingly, though there was no difference in performance between genders, women underrated their own performance more often than men. Afterwards, participants were asked whether they’d like to enter a Science Jeopardy contest on campus in which they could win cash prizes. Again, women were significantly less likely to participate, with participation likelihood being directly correlated with self-perception rather than actual performance.3

And of course, what survey of gender difference research would be complete without an allusion to the wretched annals of dating? When I told the interviewing.io team about the disparity in attrition between genders, the resounding response was along the lines of, “Well, yeah. Just think about dating from a man’s perspective.” Indeed, a study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior confirms that men treat rejection in dating very differently than women, even going so far as to say that men “reported they would experience a more positive than negative affective response after… being sexually rejected.”

Maybe tying coding to sex is a bit tenuous, but, as they say, programming is like sex — one mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life.

Prior art aside, I would like to leave off on a high note. I mentioned earlier that men are doing a lot better on the platform than women, but here’s the startling thing. Once you factor out interview data from both men and women who quit after one or two bad interviews, the disparity goes away entirely. So while the attrition numbers aren’t great, I’m massively encouraged by the fact that at least in these findings, it’s not about systemic bias against women or women being bad at computers or whatever. Rather, it’s about women being bad at dusting themselves off after failing, which, despite everything, is probably a lot easier to fix.

aline lernerAline Lerner  is the CEO and founder of interviewing.io. She used to hire people. It wasn’t that great. So now she’s buildinginterviewing.io to make it better. You can connect with her on LinkedIn here or follow her on twitter @alinelernerLLC.

 

Mo’ Money, Mo’ Hires: 5 Split Job Boards

Look, sometimes we recruiters need to make a little money on the side. Just like social media marketers do consulting for Facebook, we hire on the side. We make extra placements, to make extra cash. That’s where split job boards come in. Young recruiters looking to make money, listen up.

Split job boards are a great way for independent recruiters to make money without doing any advertising or business development. Those boards are a way to connect with job orders that would have otherwise been extremely difficult to connect with.

Split Job Boards

 

However, with more money comes more problems, of course. Two negatives in particular.The first thing is the high competition that would not generally be there with direct clientele. A recruiter using split job boards will be competing against 100’s of recruiters who are all working on the same positions in the same market pool.

The second thing that all split boards have in common is the disconnect between the client and recruiter. It is very hard for candidates to get feedback from hiring managers
and the support from Split job board account managers is not sufficient. The negative impact from these similarities results in poor relationships with our candidates.

Candidates don’t trust recruiters who cannot give them feedback on their status.Recruiters thrive on the relationships we build. In this case, it is hard to have interpersonal relationships with technology. It is extremely difficult to make placements with Split Job Boards. Here are the 5 Split Job Boards I have tried:

  1. JobHuk (jobhuk.com)

JobHuk is a split board where recruiters can work on both full-time positions and contracting jobs. Recruiters can also share their jobs with other recruiters. Job Applicants can refer candidates to the positions on the site as well.

 

Cost of Use: Free to Use. There are commission based fees if you place someone using their platform.

Cool Factors: You can work on both contract jobs and full-time opportunities. Very few split job boards offer working on contract requirements.

Pros: Feedback is faster than most other split boards. You can also share your jobs with other recruiters. They are working on programs to help support independent recruiters such as discounts in getting subscriptions to job boards, payroll funding, and a few other services that are extremely helpful.

Cons: Unlike other split boards, they are very limited on the positions that are listed to work on. There are a lot of agencies posting jobs. You may be working on jobs that have multiple layers of engagement. This split job board has very few direct clients.

  1. Bounty Jobs (bountyjobs.com)

Bounty Jobs is a split Recruiting site and a VMS (Vendor Management System). It gives agencies the opportunity to work with some of the world’s largest employers, and it gives companies the opportunity to work with many specialized agencies.

 

Cost: There is no fee to join Bounty Jobs. However, there is a fee to submit candidates to jobs you are not engaged on. That fee can range from $6.00- $25.00. There is no guarantee that hiring managers will review your candidates. Placement fees are ¼ of the agreed upon amount. For example, if you earn $10,000 from a placement fee, $2500 would go to Bounty Jobs.

Cool Factors: This platform gives you the opportunity to work with large technology companies and banks. Submissions are very simple to do on this platform.

Pros: The placement fees are extremely generous in comparison with other split boards. On average, a recruiter can walk away clear with a 15% fee of a candidate’s first-year salary. Other split boards offer 10% or lower.

Cons: Recruiters/Agencies have first to go through an interview process to be accepted by Bounty Jobs. Once they go through the interview process, they attend an orientation. According to their website, there are 10,000 approved headhunters. That is a lot of competition. It is very difficult to get engagement on jobs. Most of the organizations that use Bounty Jobs have specific agencies they want to work with, and they are not open to working with new agencies/recruiters. It is extremely difficult to get feedback on candidates. With this portal, you are not building relationships with your clients. The portal is like a black box which you submit your candidates too. It is very hard to get detailed feedback on candidates.

3.     Recruitifi (www.recruitifi.com)

Recruitifi is a Split Job Board, which only features direct positions. No splits are done with agencies. There is an account manager for each client that a recruiter can reach out to for questions.

 

Cost: There is no fee to join and submit candidates to jobs Recruiters earn 10% in the first year salary.

Cool Factors: The platform is extremely easy to use, and you can see feedback in real time.

Pros: The clientele is very interesting for this platform. You have the opportunity to work with startups as well as huge developed companies. Recruiter support is very prompt and helpful. They respond within a few hours usually.

Cons: Candidate submission process can be very tedious. There is way too much to fill out to get a candidate submitted. There is not a sense that they have great relationships with their clients. It can very hard to get feedback or close a candidate.

  1. Recruiter.com /Formerly CandidateXchange (www.recruiter.com)

Recruiter.com is a direct client and agency split board. The system offers a variety of different services. There is an extremely large network of recruiters.

 

Cool Factors: The platform has an extremely advanced user interface. Something unique about this product is that you can earn points for prizes just for using the site. There is a sense of trying to appreciate the recruiter.Cost: There is no fee to join and submit candidates to jobs

Pros: This split job board has more positions than any of the other job boards. There is so much opportunity. It is very easy to submit candidates to positions. It can be done in less than a minute.

Cons: There are a lot of cons to using this platform. The first con is the client name is not listed. On other platforms, it is listed. This can cause a lot of issues. It can cause unnecessary duplicate submissions. It can also make it difficult to build a rapport with candidates. Once you submit a candidate, the candidate goes through review with the account manager. After the account manager approves the candidate, the candidate is submitted to the hiring manager. In a lot of cases after the candidate is submitted to the hiring manager, no feedback is given. This platform also boosts that it has 1000’s of recruiters working on positions. That is way too much competition to be able to earn money.

5.     FeeTrader.com (FeeTrader.com)

FeeTrader.com is a job posting and recruitment tool that allows employers and agency/independent recruiters to connect and make placements.

 

Cost: There are a variety of different packages. They are offering a special for $299 a year. It costs money to work on positions.

Cool Factors: There is no cool factor. This site is extremely old fashioned.

Pros: The only pro is the placement fee. You may keep more of your placement fee in comparisons with other Split Boards.

Cons: The cost is extremely high just use the platform. You have to bid on jobs and be accepted to work on positions. You may have to bid very low to be competitive. In that case, you may not earn as much as you would with others split sites. You shouldn’t have to pay to work on positions. Another con is you would be working with client managers on positions which adds another layer. You don’t submit candidates through the site instead you send them to your account managers. This is an extremely old-fashioned way of working. It resembles systems from the early 2000’s.

Should you be using split boards? That is kind of a personal decision.  It is nice that they are available, I mean a split fee is better than no fee. But always remember, not all split boards are created equal.

tanya

Tanya Bourque is CEO of OpExpert, a staffing firm based in Wyomissing, PA.  She is a  technology enthusiast who is obsessed with finding the best tools available for recruiters.She has experience with sourcing, marketing tools, CRMs, and applicant tracking systems. You can connect with her on LinkedIn or follow her on Twitter.